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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo

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podcast delighted to be joined again by

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mr brandon fugo owner of skin walker

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ranch brandon welcome back to the

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podcast hey it's good to be with you

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thank you for uh welcoming me back and i

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look forward to answering any questions

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as we're heading into our

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third season of our docu-series and

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continue

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our historic scientific investigation

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well we've got a lot of listeners in the

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states where you are three episodes in

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to season three i believe episode three

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airs this evening um it's the afternoon

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as we record this just now and listeners

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in the uk have a little bit longer to

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wait unless they're watching it via

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other means which in 2022 are of course

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available online uh so i've had a lot of

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different questions from listeners

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brandon for you as well as my own

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i want to kick off by asking how has the

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reception been to season three

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especially now we are a few episodes in

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ah very positive and i i think it is

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important to note

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that our investigation continues

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24 7 365 days a year so even when

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the production

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is not

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present on the property

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we we have our full-time physicists

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additional team members that

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that are actively engaged with the the

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ongoing investigation

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you're very engaged and active yourself

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on social media which is massively

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appreciated by people like myself

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and like you say people forget some

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people forget you've got a lot of fans

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of the show and and the and the

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the events and experiences that happen

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on skinwalker ranch even before you took

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over the property

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is there still a frustration for you

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that some people see it just as a tv

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show and they think that when the

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cameras stop the events and the

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experiences stop as well

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sure there can be a a source of

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frustration but it's understandable and

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so i appreciate the opportunity to

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clarify

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that the

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the docu-series on history

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channel only exists because there has

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been an ongoing scientific investigation

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under my ownership that commenced in

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april of 2016 and has continued unabated

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until present day

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uh and so it's it's

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an exciting opportunity to be able to

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uh onto the property virtually if you

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will through the docu-series format uh

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opportunity to create something a little

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a little bit more engaging but we're

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opportunities that were we are unveiling

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and opening up to the general public i

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mean our web portal which is

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is is live and opera and offers an

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opportunity for uh the public to engage

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and to be able to to you know review a

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cameras aren't necessarily rolling

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touched on it so let's let's talk about

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the website so it's a premium

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what was the thinking behind that and

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what is it people can access

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in fact an abundance of content that

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doesn't cost anything that is there

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for the public to review and and

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team uh is is is really

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uh excited and wanted the opportunity to

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this uh this portal and so it's a good

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compliment to the series but the series

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very well received i you know we are a

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show on the history channel on the

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network and we are consistently in the

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top 10 in all cable television i believe

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as we air so it it really

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a an indication that we have a global

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audience and the people are very

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interested in these topics and our

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ongoing investigation

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has there been a particular highlight

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for yourself from this season that you

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can talk about gosh you know we we we

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started the season off with the bang

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bringing out former governor gary

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herbert uh from the state of utah to

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have the the longest-serving governor in

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in recent history

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actually show an active interest and

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want to come on the property and and to

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engage with the team

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and to to be able to

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draw from his

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his existing resources uh in order to

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assist was a a big moment but i think

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the bat

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ufo activity captured on camera in broad

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daylight

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in conjunction with advanced rocketry

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and uh and and a host of other

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activities that continue

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to stimulate activity

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uh with the phenomena on the property is

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there anything that's happened this

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season that you weren't able to get into

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the show that you or the the other ranch

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members were hoping to

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uh sure there's always a lot of activity

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that doesn't make it uh onto the series

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i would say that's you know 95 percent

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of what is filmed ends up on the cutting

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room floor if you will uh it's just a

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reality associated with uh with trying

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to to put together a a

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a properly edited

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and packaged summary of our activities

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but you know i think it it's important

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for people to realize also that none of

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this is fabricated contrived scripted

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this is a completely unscripted

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uh actual record of events as they

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unfold with the team and i think that

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presents a unique opportunity for people

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you know behind the scenes how

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our scientific research has unfolded on

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this really unique piece of property

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i remember speaking to thomas winterton

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and people were talking about one of the

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experiments how it looked as if it had

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been faked because the equipment

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wouldn't have worked the way it would

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have uh but thomas explained quite

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greatly that

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the piece of equipment was supposed to

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be placed inside of a tin can to which

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he said you can't fit a tv camera inside

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the tin can to show it so we have to one

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do the experiment with the tin can but

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also we have to then show you the piece

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of equipment we're using and it's things

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like that people don't realize that that

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no and and

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we have it we have several physicists

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you know there on site that are

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assisting with the scientific protocols

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with trying to establish the proper

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approach as far as this the experiment

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the experimental activity on the

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property and i think it's a learning

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process i mean that this is this is

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something that that people are

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thankfully able to see unfold as we're

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learning and

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the the challenge of documenting and

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interacting with the phenomena it this

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is not a straightforward linear path to

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discovery it's

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very challenging you know a lot of

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people ask us well if if you have so

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many equipment failures and

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electromagnetic anomalies and

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malfunctions how are you able to present

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and and record the docu-series and i i

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it it would surprise everyone to know

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we we are constantly dealing with

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everything from drone malfunctions

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to all sorts of equipment malfunction

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and even damage during the course of

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trying to document this so it it is not

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an easy uh process in order to capture

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what is taking place on the ranch

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now that engagement from the phenomenon

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something you mentioned and digging has

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always been a sensitive subject on the

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ranch a whole show i believe in series

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one was called bad things happen when

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has there been any discussion and this

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is something that quite a lot of

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listeners asked me brandon any

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discussion around a larger scale dig to

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get to the bottom of what could be

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sure if if you see some of the uh the

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trailer or preview material for this

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upcoming season you see that we we take

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a very aggressive approach

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to to probing

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the uh the mesa and to to actually

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digging and and probing the property to

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really i think follow up on the

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experiments of the last several seasons

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and and to be able to i think zero in on

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on really what is happening

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and now that we're three seasons in and

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obviously we still have half of season

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three at least to go

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where do you see skinwalker ranch as a

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series heading do you see an end goal or

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an end game

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you know i i don't really have an end

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game relative to the docu-series

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although i'm thankful for the

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opportunity for us to present

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uh our investigation on the history

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channel and to engage with the public

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it doesn't change the fact that that

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this is an ongoing scientific

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and and will continue with or without a

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a docu-series in the works uh it is my

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hope that we'll be able to continue to

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reveal to the public the progression of

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events that that are occurring even on a

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daily basis even this past week on the

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property there are things happening

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that uh that we

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were continually surprised by

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anything particular you could mention

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without without

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you know ufo activity or unidentified

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aerial phenomena is is something that we

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are continuing to document on the

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property with with with great frequency

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we're also

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uh uncovering other mysteries

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that are in essence puzzle pieces

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uh puzzle pieces that we're putting

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together in order to understand

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what we are dealing with

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at skinwalker ranch many of the

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scientists that came before us qualified

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the

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attributed to a

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precognitive sentient non-human

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intelligence

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you know even something or some things

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that have the ability

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to to

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interact or have access to our

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consciousness

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now are there any other places around

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the uintah basin that you would like to

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get involved within the show

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and i wonder even not just yourself but

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travis taylor thomas winterton brian

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arnold and the others

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good question you know the the the

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activity is is not necessarily bound to

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the fence line at skinwalker ranch on on

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my 512 acre piece of property

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but it is important to realize that the

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highest degree of frequency

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of sightings and other high strangeness

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for whatever reason going back

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decades

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uh appears to be focused on this

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property and so as much as we we take a

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broad view and look at the uinta basin

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with our research a lot of our resources

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will continue to be focused

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uh right there on that 512 acres now

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that being said we see some common

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uh

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commonality with with other sites

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globally there are other

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areas

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that report

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unusual activity that we have been

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uh communicating with or at least with

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those researchers involved with those

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those sites and and you know we may have

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the opportunity in the future to

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to uh interact with them as part of the

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uh

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the ongoing effort

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if anyone from the network was listening

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that might be a nice christmas special

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episode maybe getting those other

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researchers or sports involved if they

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wanted to do that i'm sure people would

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be interested yeah i mean you could

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create a whole series just on the

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science of skinwalker ranch the

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scientific platforms that have been

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established are really

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to a large degree proprietary i have to

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give great credit to eric bard

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our full-time physicist who has been

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living on site

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by the way

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uh since last august september without

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without returning to uh

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to his home that much and he's uh he's

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constantly

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and vigilantly

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monitoring all the systems and reviewing

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everything from the footage to

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a lot of the other uh scientific

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readings that

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that are that are being made on the

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property

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i'm sure eric works very hard but he

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does get a beautiful view of the mesa

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and a very cool command center to work

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out of so i'm not going to be too

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sympathetic towards him he's got some

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pretty cool toys to work with well but

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it's a dangerous place and you know bad

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things happen to people unfortunately on

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this property that is why we we require

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that everyone sign a liability waiver

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acknowledging the risks associated with

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entering skinwalker ranch

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uh it's

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it's a known fact that you know a number

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of participants have ended up in the

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hospital

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with the mysterious illnesses or

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injuries over the course the last couple

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of years and

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and it's something that continues to

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concern me

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you talk about that this past week i had

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a professor gary nolan on the podcast

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who was talking with me about the

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hitchhiker effect and he thought it was

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potentially not something that is

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necessarily negative that he thinks it

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can be from someone opening up and being

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more susceptible to whatever this entity

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being or beings are that are looking to

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attach themselves

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and i wonder brandon as the months and

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years have passed your six years now of

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stewardship how has your perception of

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this hitchhiker phenomenon changed well

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i have great respect for dr nolan and

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his work i mean he's one of the finest

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uh you know scientists on the planet uh

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right now and so to hear

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that he's he's uh

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referenced to the hitchhiker effect and

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and some of what we are dealing with or

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what attends the phenomena

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is uh

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is is is interesting and something i

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respect uh

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i think that you know we've seen both

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malevolent

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negative and

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you know somewhat i wouldn't call it

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positive but but at least some benign

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hitchhiker activity that has followed

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people home

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that his uh has been witnessed by family

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members but uh unfortunately i would say

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over half the time it seems to be

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somewhat negative

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do you think and i wonder is this a

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discussion that you or your colleagues

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have had that what we interpret as

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humans as being a negative experience

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could potentially be something just

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trying to communicate in its own way

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uh perhaps

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i and i think that there may be entities

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that are are simply trying to

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communicate with us i believe we have

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evidence of that at skinwalker ranch uh

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but i i don't know that we're dealing

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with just one

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one

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entity i think we're dealing with a

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diversity of

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agendas and origins associated with

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the

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uh activity

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seen at skinwalker ranch

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just thinking of you know fish inside of

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a fish tank that if you tap the outside

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of it you're not necessarily trying to

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scare them but maybe get their attention

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but what you do is inadvertently cause a

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reaction it does scare the fish and i

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wonder sometimes are these the effects

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that could be happening but i've also

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spoken to people like thomas winterton

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and george knapp who george knapp

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himself said he had an experience and it

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actually went on to his wife as well

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which he was he said was particularly

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terrifying and scary so i can appreciate

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there's been some some not very nice

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things things happen to people who have

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visited the ranch

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sure

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you know there's there's there is a

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diversity

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of uh activity and experiences

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associated with uh with those that have

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participated at skinwalker ranch i mean

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thomas winterton

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our superintendent of six years has

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unfortunately had very negative

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experiences not only negative

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experiences on the ranch that uh that we

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believe

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you know led to his hospitalization and

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almost

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uh threatened i mean these were

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life-threatening

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uh situations but he's also had things

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that have gone beyond that that i'll

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i'll leave for him to decide whether he

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wants to discuss in the future

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if anyone wants to go back it was one of

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the first interviews i'd done was with

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thomas winterton and he does discuss in

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some detail things that followed him

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back to his home potentially in some

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scary experiences with his car and so

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yeah something's definitely worth

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checking out thomas was very open um i

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want to ask you though you mentioned

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it's been six years now brandon since

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you've taken over the stewardship of the

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ranch

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um what's been your proudest moment in

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those six years

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i think my proudest moment has been

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seeing this team

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work together

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and really coalesce into a a truly

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multi-disciplinary collaborative effort

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to

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the

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and and are faced with some very

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challenging circumstances

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and and a task to try to get to the

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bottom of a mystery that has been going

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on for for decades if not millennia and

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and to see them actually

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executing on on not only the experiments

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but working together to

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to solve the mystery

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and and to to put the puzzle pieces

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together in a way that we haven't seen

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in any other instance that i'm aware of

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in the public domain i i find all of

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that very

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very uh inspiring and i'm most proud of

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that i'm i'm very proud of of my team

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and their efforts and to see them all

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grow together and see this effort

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bring i i think the most professional

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uh focus and scientific

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tools and investigation to what was

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previously

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a a controversial

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uh topic or or arena of topics is is

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something that i'm quite proud of

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and on that just today as we record this

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it's the 17th of may uh congressional

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uap hearings took place within congress

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in the united states uh have you had a

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chance yet brandon to catch up on what

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happened at those those events yeah i

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i've reviewed some of that and i'll

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reserve comment um rather than to to

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state that it's about time i mean it's

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it's about time that the public

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uh be awakened to the fact that this is

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real that this is not

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you know

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the figment of people's imaginations

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that uh that

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our airspace is being violated that

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that some of our most

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uh i skilled fighter pilots

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and and military officers have witnessed

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phenomena and

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and have been willing to step forward

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uh

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and and vocalize

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uh their uh

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their experiences i think that's a big

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deal i think that the facts speak for

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themselves anyone who does their due

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diligence regarding these topics i mean

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real due diligence looking at witness

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testimony

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and uh and the documentary evidence

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associated

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you know with these topics i i think

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will find

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that there is

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very real

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uh legitimacy and validity to them so

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it's it's good to see that congress is

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taking it seriously i think that we're

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just barely scratching the surface

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uh and and and

569
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there is so much more

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to be revealed in the weeks and months

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to come

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can you foresee a time where the ranch

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itself is brought up as a place of

574
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:27,600
interest in hearings or settings like

575
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:30,799
that oh absolutely i mean it's

576
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,600
it's no secret that skinwalker ranch has

577
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,600
been a living laboratory and was part of

578
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,720
a pentagon funded black budget program

579
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:40,640
for years and

580
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:43,039
and for whatever reason

581
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:43,919
is

582
00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,159
activity

583
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:52,159
is there an open invitation to any of

584
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:53,760
those congressmen or women with an

585
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,400
interest in the ufo uap or phenomenon as

586
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,280
a subject to come to the ranch and visit

587
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:01,679
well we we don't schedule tours i mean

588
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,159
this isn't something that we uh

589
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:06,799
that that we're anxious to open up for

590
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,400
uh for the public i mean it if i if i

591
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:12,960
even granted one percent of the requests

592
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:15,679
that i received on a on a weekly basis

593
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,080
from people and a lot of very qualified

594
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,400
people that want to visit the property

595
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:22,799
meet with the team i

596
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,320
i would be overwhelmed 24 7. uh and

597
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,320
you know we are conducting a very

598
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,799
sensitive scientific investigation

599
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:33,039
right now and there is liability

600
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,039
associated with it so i

601
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,120
i'll answer your question with with the

602
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:39,360
statement that we'd be happy to brief

603
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:42,960
any uh anyone in authority relative to

604
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,919
the reality of our ongoing investigation

605
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:47,760
and the data

606
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:51,039
the hard data underpinning

607
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:54,640
our findings and and our research

608
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,520
and and activity and

609
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:59,279
look forward to being very transparent

610
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,720
with the public and anyone who's

611
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,159
interested

612
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:04,080
that's a fair comment uh to finish off

613
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,360
i'd like to get to some listener

614
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:06,799
questions for you brandon there was a

615
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:09,120
lot of interest so um if you can get

616
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,080
through a couple of these that'd be

617
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,080
appreciated you bet

618
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:14,880
um first up is from bb uh bb would like

619
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,400
to know if you have any idea who or why

620
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:20,960
is constantly surveilling the ranch i.e

621
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,279
drones in the airspace black helicopters

622
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:26,000
flying around or anything like that

623
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:27,520
well if

624
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:28,720
if you saw

625
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:31,679
episode one of this this new season

626
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,799
you you saw that we are most definitely

627
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:36,159
being monitored

628
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:37,039
by

629
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,200
000 feet conducting

630
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:45,520
very sophisticated

631
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:48,720
uh monitoring and surveillance of of our

632
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:51,440
property i mean and and we've continued

633
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,799
to document uh additional activity that

634
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:56,480
has even taken place in the last few

635
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,919
weeks

636
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,400
that that is undeniable that is well

637
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,039
documented so we know that

638
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:05,360
that the ranch is

639
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:08,880
a an area of interest we know that for

640
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:10,640
whatever reason it is

641
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,600
it is gone far beyond just the scope of

642
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:15,679
our investigation but has captured the

643
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:18,559
attention of other entities what what

644
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:20,640
they know that we don't know it would

645
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:23,279
that's a good question uh it'd be great

646
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:24,640
to collaborate

647
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:25,840
and to

648
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,480
to be able to know the exact nature of

649
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:30,720
some of that surveillance that is taking

650
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,559
place but there's a big difference

651
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,960
between that surveillance that is taking

652
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:35,840
place

653
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:38,640
and the bonafide unidentified aerial

654
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:40,799
phenomena that we are

655
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:43,279
that we are documenting and experiencing

656
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,520
with third-party witnesses

657
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,279
they're

658
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:50,240
seeing before their very eyes that's

659
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,440
that's what is i think most compelling

660
00:25:57,470 --> 00:25:55,440
you know we continually document i think

661
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:57,480
some of the best evidence of

662
00:26:01,269 --> 00:26:00,480
unidentified aerial phenomena correlated

663
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,279
with

664
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:02,720
you know

665
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,919
electromagnetic anomalies and equipment

666
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,440
malfunctions

667
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,799
and also

668
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,720
third party expert

669
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,000
witnesses

670
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:14,400
that are engaged with the team that are

671
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:15,520
there

672
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,559
and and witnessing these things

673
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:21,200
happening in real time

674
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,240
julie wants to know has dr avi loeb ever

675
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,080
visited the ranch and would you be

676
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:28,080
interested in working in any capacity on

677
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:30,320
the galileo project

678
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:33,200
i had the privilege of meeting with dr

679
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:36,400
loeb several months ago in fact we spoke

680
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,799
at uh at the museum of science in boston

681
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:43,039
and discussed a collaborative effort in

682
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,640
fact i offered

683
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,039
to uh to have a galileo project

684
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,760
installation at skinwalker ranch

685
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:51,840
and to closely collaborate and work

686
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:54,559
together and to compare data in service

687
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:57,200
to discovery

688
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,559
that's good to know is that something

689
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:00,640
that's on the horizon or just has been

690
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:03,600
left out there tentatively uh it it's on

691
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:06,320
the horizon but i think we you know

692
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:07,279
we're

693
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:11,520
hope to re-engage and continue the

694
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,240
discussion here in the near future

695
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:16,960
excellent um tree of life says in the

696
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,120
book uh skinwalkers at the pentagon it

697
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:20,960
is suggested that the hitchhiker effect

698
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,360
can jump from one person to another so

699
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,200
family members of someone who visited

700
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:27,200
can have experiences outside of the

701
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,159
ranch

702
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:30,640
are there any theories on why it spreads

703
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,520
and how many people it can spread to

704
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,600
there are a lot of theories

705
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:38,000
and there is a lot of data

706
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:40,399
backing up the so-called hitchhiker

707
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:43,440
effect uh one thing is for sure there

708
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:44,399
are

709
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:48,960
a number of military operatives and you

710
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:51,840
know former scientists and participants

711
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:54,640
on the ranch that refused to ever set

712
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,520
foot back on that property ever again

713
00:28:02,710 --> 00:27:59,440
even mr bigelow

714
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:02,720
refuses to ever set foot on this

715
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,840
property again and uh and we've received

716
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:07,120
a lot of

717
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,080
um

718
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:10,559
how shall i say this we've received a

719
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,440
lot of

720
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,679
feedback confirming

721
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:16,080
that uh that the hitchhiker effect is

722
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:17,440
real and that

723
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:20,159
the the impact that

724
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,600
it has had on families on family members

725
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,960
associated

726
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:27,039
with uh with those who have

727
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:28,559
who have visited the ranch and

728
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,679
participated in the investigations

729
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,679
it's something to be taken very

730
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:35,760
seriously

731
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,000
brendan has a question is the ranch a

732
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:40,080
place that indigenous people went to in

733
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,880
order to induce ontological shock as

734
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,559
part of an initiation

735
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:46,960
and if so why is there any reason to

736
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:49,360
assume a nuts and bolts investigation

737
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,840
will give any answers as the phenomenon

738
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:53,760
there would not seem to be made from

739
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,279
nuts and bolts

740
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:57,440
uh good question

741
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,240
we've identified areas of the property

742
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:02,080
where there are pictographs or

743
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:03,440
petroglyphs

744
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,880
and and megalithic structures

745
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:09,200
that that are ancient

746
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:10,000
that

747
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,080
have been around for a very long time

748
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:14,960
the indigenous peoples the the native

749
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,559
americans that inhabited the property uh

750
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:21,039
left traces of their

751
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:24,399
uh habitation and also the the fact that

752
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:25,200
they

753
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:31,520
of not only potential star charts

754
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:33,440
but also uh

755
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,480
you know

756
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,799
i think signifying that this property

757
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,640
for whatever reason was a place of

758
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:40,159
significance

759
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:43,520
being sensitive to that cultural history

760
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,399
and bringing consultants on the property

761
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:48,799
to help our team and you know our

762
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:51,760
full-time anthropologists candace lindy

763
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:55,440
better understand the historical context

764
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:56,880
has been an important part of our

765
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,200
investigation

766
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,039
ryan wants to know that when you saw

767
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:03,760
this silver metallic craft or any uap

768
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,919
experience you've had have you ever had

769
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:08,320
any overwhelming sense of emotion that

770
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:09,600
you've you've felt along with that

771
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,279
experience i i didn't personally i was i

772
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:15,600
was astonished by what i

773
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,240
what i witnessed with other witnesses

774
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,640
sitting right by my side

775
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:23,120
when i had my own siding in broad

776
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,240
daylight

777
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,080
and observed

778
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:29,520
that craft or that object maneuvering in

779
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:32,080
ways that just defy any conventional

780
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:34,720
description but i i didn't feel any

781
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,360
sense of dread it was more

782
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,799
uh

783
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,880
more that i was in off

784
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:42,720
it just seemed unbelievable that we were

785
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,360
witnessing it and and the whole episode

786
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,200
happened over the course of about 20

787
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:48,880
seconds and was over

788
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,360
and it i think it's it's difficult for

789
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,600
people to understand sometimes that that

790
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,919
when you're caught off guard

791
00:31:01,509 --> 00:30:58,080
even on skinwalker ranch

792
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:01,519
uh that has this history i mean it's

793
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:03,919
it's it's something that uh that you're

794
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,760
never really prepared for i think most

795
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,760
people will attest to the fact that

796
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,640
they're unprepared for what they witness

797
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:12,720
uh on the property

798
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,360
two more questions mr hugo this one from

799
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,000
mark is there any person or organization

800
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:20,640
besides yourself sponsoring research at

801
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:22,080
the ranch

802
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:23,120
no

803
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:29,279
sponsored and and paid for by me since

804
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:31,120
since i acquired the property in april

805
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:32,640
2016

806
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,279
along with of course the history channel

807
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,519
uh helping to subsidize some of the

808
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:39,279
experimental activity

809
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,960
and personnel and expenses during the

810
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:45,039
short period of time every year that

811
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:48,720
they are working on production so the

812
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,200
the history channel engagement wall

813
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,440
while important and

814
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:56,399
and i think uh very helpful this doesn't

815
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:57,679
come close

816
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,720
to to covering the cost and expense

817
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:02,720
associated with the ongoing scientific

818
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:05,760
investigation that has now surpassed six

819
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:08,559
years under my stewardship

820
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,880
and final question from gaz is there

821
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:12,880
anywhere else in the world you would

822
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,440
like to investigate and why if you were

823
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,279
looking at purchasing a new skin walker

824
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:18,640
ranch is there anywhere you would have

825
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:21,519
your eye on uh sure there are other

826
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:24,399
areas of interest that uh

827
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,120
that i would like to have the team

828
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,399
investigate simply because i i believe

829
00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:32,640
pulling the data together and finding

830
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,159
correlations

831
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:36,640
uh can help us better understand

832
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:39,519
potentially the the nature of what we're

833
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:40,720
dealing with

834
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,440
the the origin the agenda

835
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:45,600
uh i think there are some common

836
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,679
signatures if you will

837
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:50,000
that we find uh

838
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,360
across the world in other locations uh

839
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,679
it would be interesting but as of right

840
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:56,480
now

841
00:33:02,950 --> 00:32:57,279
i

842
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:02,960
uh

843
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,840
actually acquiring

844
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:07,679
and to finish off brandon you've been

845
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,919
very generous with your time again what

846
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,600
people got to look forward to with the

847
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:13,919
rest of season three

848
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,559
a lot of revelations a lot of very

849
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,159
surprising

850
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:20,080
uh activity

851
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,279
that is captured on camera real time

852
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:25,519
again i want to stress this is a

853
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,000
completely unscripted

854
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:30,720
factual docu-series none of this has

855
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:31,519
been

856
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:34,240
you know contrived fabricated

857
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,159
in any way uh and we are really excited

858
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:40,399
to present to the public you know what

859
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:41,440
we have

860
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,320
continued to experience and discover

861
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,200
as part of this groundbreaking research

862
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at skinwalker ranch i've i've said this

863
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before i believe that this is the

864
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:53,039
greatest science project of our time

865
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and and holds such potential to uh to

866
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help us understand our place in the

867
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universe the nature of our reality and

868
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and answer that question of you know are

869
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we alone i think the answer is right in

870
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front of us and the answer is

871
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no we are not alone

872
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uh we are in we are interacting with uh

873
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with the diversity

874
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of uh of entities of

875
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phenomena that uh that continues to defy

876
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explanation or at least any conventional

877
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explanation

878
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that is all for this week's show thank

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you very much for listening please

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891
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and again folks as always keep looking

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up you never know what you might see

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is

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[Music]

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scare me

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[Music]

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if you really want to know who i think

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[Music]

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open mind

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[Music]

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saucers it wasn't a tic tac and not

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[Music]

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let's go

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[Music]

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yes